Is this yeast die - off or something else?
My son has been gradually getting more and more stimmy since the lastalmost a month or so. I’m not sure if it’s related to too much yeast(we let him have lots of GFCF candy over Halloween, oops!) overgrowth,or to the new anti-yeast protocol we’re on.
We’re on a slew of supplements, but no radical changes there withinthe last few months. I noticed him getting slightly more stimmyaround mid-late October, just as we were getting ready to start ourfour-stge anti-yeast diet using “Feast without Yeast.” About 10 daysago we started Nystatin at just 1 tsp/day for the first week, then 2tsp/day for this week, working up to 4 tsp/day by December 1. Justthis week he’s soooooo stimmy and distracted, giggly and practicallybouncing into walls, I don’t know how I can increase his Nystatin tillI know what’s causing this.
I’ve heard these symptoms are often caused by yeast overgrowth (whichI know he has and the sugar couldn’t have helped), but it’s odd thatit got so much worse after starting Nystatin. He’s been GFCF sinceApril and that had really helped a lot till all this started up inOctober. He’s on stage 3 of the anti-yeast diet now, but that doesn’tseem to making much difference. ANy help appreciated.
This post tagged as: feast without yeast, yeast overgrowth, gfcf diet
Venetta Ambrosia said,
Wrote on February 24, 2007 @ 3:29 am
I agree it sounds like yeast overgrowth / die-off reaction.
How many units is in 1,2 or 4 tsp? I assume you are using a Nystainin a liquid suspension. Does it contain sugar or is it made withstevia or xylitol? If it contains sugar, it will feed the yeast youare trying to kill. You need to get Nystatin w/o sugar.
Have you ever heard of activated charcoal and how to use it todetermine if it is die-off? You may be killing yeast off faster thenhis body can process it. Have you considered backing off the Nystainto see if things improve.
Lizeth Loosli said,
Wrote on February 24, 2007 @ 4:28 am
I’ll check the Nystatin for sugar but I’mpretty sure that isn’t it. I’m going to amail my DAN! doc but I’mtrying to decide what to do meantime. I’ll check on the activatedcharcoal and try that.
Melisa Schumpert said,
Wrote on February 25, 2007 @ 11:19 am
What are the stims?
Some kids don’t tolerate Nystatin, especially if it is not acompounded version. Try giving it with No-Fenol enzyme, see if that helps
http://www.houstonni.com/
Those symptoms can be phenol intolerance, yeast overgrowth, orintolerance to other things like corn
http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm
http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm
Check the ingredients of the Nystatin.
If you suspect it might be die off, try giving activated charcoal30-45 minutes after the Nystatin, see if that helps.